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	<description>A Holistic Approach to Implementating Enterprise Application Software</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Human aspects of Project Management by Aditya Gholap</title>
		<link>http://evolutionofbpr.com/human-aspects-of-project-management/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Aditya Gholap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. A couple of handy insights. I agree particularly with the last point about adoption management. When we started, we created an MIS with Google Docs. That sort of failed because it wasn't enticing enough, interface wasn't great and people didn't see 'trends' wrt their performance and they couldn't see how it contributed to organisational growth so the effect was not as expected. We then moved to a web based project management tool called &lt;a href="http://www.deskaway.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt; Deskaway &lt;/a&gt; - we had an entire day with a training workshop and guidelines with respect to impact on the company and also an understanding of how individual work affects the organisation. At the end we gave our crew members the option to opt out of managing projects using the tool or opt in. They clearly saw the importance of process management and they saw how we didn't want to stifle creativity - they also saw the importance of improved analytics and reporting on the business and this got social collaboration really going. It starts in the mind i guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. A couple of handy insights. I agree particularly with the last point about adoption management. When we started, we created an MIS with Google Docs. That sort of failed because it wasn&#8217;t enticing enough, interface wasn&#8217;t great and people didn&#8217;t see &#8216;trends&#8217; wrt their performance and they couldn&#8217;t see how it contributed to organisational growth so the effect was not as expected. We then moved to a web based project management tool called <a href="http://www.deskaway.com/" rel="nofollow"> Deskaway </a> - we had an entire day with a training workshop and guidelines with respect to impact on the company and also an understanding of how individual work affects the organisation. At the end we gave our crew members the option to opt out of managing projects using the tool or opt in. They clearly saw the importance of process management and they saw how we didn&#8217;t want to stifle creativity - they also saw the importance of improved analytics and reporting on the business and this got social collaboration really going. It starts in the mind i guess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BPM with TIBCO Business Studio by What is missing in the Business Process modeling and analysis process? &#124; EVOLUTION OF BPR</title>
		<link>http://evolutionofbpr.com/bpm-with-tibco-business-studio/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>What is missing in the Business Process modeling and analysis process? &#124; EVOLUTION OF BPR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] budgets are not a  good excuse for ignoring good practices, and inexpensive or even free tools. We wrote here before about Tibco Business Design Studio, as just one example of such a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] budgets are not a  good excuse for ignoring good practices, and inexpensive or even free tools. We wrote here before about Tibco Business Design Studio, as just one example of such a [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Re: Solving sales&#8217; CRM phobia by Chris Bucholtz</title>
		<link>http://evolutionofbpr.com/re-solving-sales-crm-phobia/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Bucholtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg--

It seems like the ideal introduction of CRM would be in a "green field," a new sales organization built from the ground up to use CRM as a core tool to manage and create a more collaborative environment - and led by someone who understands the benefits and pitfalls. Pity that this describes an infinitessinal percentage of the real world scenarios...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg&#8211;</p>
<p>It seems like the ideal introduction of CRM would be in a &#8220;green field,&#8221; a new sales organization built from the ground up to use CRM as a core tool to manage and create a more collaborative environment - and led by someone who understands the benefits and pitfalls. Pity that this describes an infinitessinal percentage of the real world scenarios&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can Microsoft re-invent itself? by Gregory Yankelovich</title>
		<link>http://evolutionofbpr.com/can-microsoft-re-invent-itself/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Yankelovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen a few attempts of wholesale escape from the Office squashed by users rebellion. Interestingly enough these were high tech companies, and rebellious users were software engineers. Google produces some mediocre products too, and it is not alone.

"Conformism is an application of the least effort rule and most often supports stupid ideas, those that do not require too much effort at researching and thinking. Politicians love it as an opportunity to pander to the crowds. Microsoft bashing is conformism. Human cause of global warming is another. The Web is the strongest conformism spreader ever but it also is the greatest opportunity to fight it and, as individuals, we should."

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen a few attempts of wholesale escape from the Office squashed by users rebellion. Interestingly enough these were high tech companies, and rebellious users were software engineers. Google produces some mediocre products too, and it is not alone.</p>
<p>&#8220;Conformism is an application of the least effort rule and most often supports stupid ideas, those that do not require too much effort at researching and thinking. Politicians love it as an opportunity to pander to the crowds. Microsoft bashing is conformism. Human cause of global warming is another. The Web is the strongest conformism spreader ever but it also is the greatest opportunity to fight it and, as individuals, we should.&#8221;</p>
<p>Candidus</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can Microsoft re-invent itself? by JimBob 'Bama</title>
		<link>http://evolutionofbpr.com/can-microsoft-re-invent-itself/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>JimBob 'Bama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 10:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps the company's actual (rather than anticipated) performance changes your opinion? Pretty much everyone I know has moved to Apple, Ubuntu or will swap out of windows/office the moment a superior alternative is available. Simultaneously poisoning the water in which their customers swim and producing mediocre/crappy products is not exactly a winning combo. My company will soon be completely MSFT-free and everyone is looking forward to it (Google Apps, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps the company&#8217;s actual (rather than anticipated) performance changes your opinion? Pretty much everyone I know has moved to Apple, Ubuntu or will swap out of windows/office the moment a superior alternative is available. Simultaneously poisoning the water in which their customers swim and producing mediocre/crappy products is not exactly a winning combo. My company will soon be completely MSFT-free and everyone is looking forward to it (Google Apps, etc.).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why are there so many CRM failures? by Gregory Yankelovich</title>
		<link>http://evolutionofbpr.com/why-there-is-so-many-crm-failures/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Yankelovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent observation Marc, I've had similar experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent observation Marc, I&#8217;ve had similar experiences.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why are there so many CRM failures? by Marc Mangus</title>
		<link>http://evolutionofbpr.com/why-there-is-so-many-crm-failures/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Mangus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been involved in 3 large CRM deployments in my career and invariably the largest hurdle is adoption, but even this is only a sympton. The real underlying problem is that the companies lacked discipline around the sales process. We all know how hard it is to automate a broken process. They seem to forget that a CRM system is just an automation tool for an existing process. They seemed to think that since sales is based on human intraction it was ok to leave it softly defined and devoid of accountability. The success came when, seperate from the CRM project, the sales process was defined and the sales force was held accountable to following it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been involved in 3 large CRM deployments in my career and invariably the largest hurdle is adoption, but even this is only a sympton. The real underlying problem is that the companies lacked discipline around the sales process. We all know how hard it is to automate a broken process. They seem to forget that a CRM system is just an automation tool for an existing process. They seemed to think that since sales is based on human intraction it was ok to leave it softly defined and devoid of accountability. The success came when, seperate from the CRM project, the sales process was defined and the sales force was held accountable to following it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why are there so many CRM failures? by Gregory Yankelovich</title>
		<link>http://evolutionofbpr.com/why-there-is-so-many-crm-failures/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Yankelovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 22:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

IMO CRM entities are not as process oriented and detailed as other business units, and as such they don't set up goals as specific as needed. Customer Support pillar of CRM usually fairs much better then Sales and Marketing because they focus on SLA, workflows, and other specifics, where the Sales and Marketing are too conceptual and don't often articulate their needs in terms which can drive accountability. They surely do not like to tie more sales commitments to CRM investment, even though it can work if applied organically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>IMO CRM entities are not as process oriented and detailed as other business units, and as such they don&#8217;t set up goals as specific as needed. Customer Support pillar of CRM usually fairs much better then Sales and Marketing because they focus on SLA, workflows, and other specifics, where the Sales and Marketing are too conceptual and don&#8217;t often articulate their needs in terms which can drive accountability. They surely do not like to tie more sales commitments to CRM investment, even though it can work if applied organically.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why are there so many CRM failures? by Chris Bucholtz</title>
		<link>http://evolutionofbpr.com/why-there-is-so-many-crm-failures/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Bucholtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg--

Do you think this is the same dynamic as in the software world, where sales sets crazy expectations that developers can't meet? Or is CRM a little deeper than that, where sales AND other entities in the equation (marketing, consultants, the CRM media, etc.) are unwittingly setting the bar too high?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg&#8211;</p>
<p>Do you think this is the same dynamic as in the software world, where sales sets crazy expectations that developers can&#8217;t meet? Or is CRM a little deeper than that, where sales AND other entities in the equation (marketing, consultants, the CRM media, etc.) are unwittingly setting the bar too high?</p>
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		<title>Comment on re The problem with Forrester&#8217;s $4.6 billion prediction by Gregory Yankelovich</title>
		<link>http://evolutionofbpr.com/re-the-problem-with-forresters-46-billion-prediction/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Yankelovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, I have only meant to comment on your enthusiasm for twitter, wiki and other tools used for social networking and collaboration. I surely did not mean to offend you, as I find your posts very thought provoking and enjoy reading them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, I have only meant to comment on your enthusiasm for twitter, wiki and other tools used for social networking and collaboration. I surely did not mean to offend you, as I find your posts very thought provoking and enjoy reading them.</p>
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